Knox had had numerous male visitors

[geebee2]

Another statement you make at

fortaleza84.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/is-amanda-knox-guilty/

"Also, Knox had had numerous male visitors and Kercher had not."

Depending on what you mean by numerous ( more than three? ), I doubt that this is true.

I agree that Meredith did not have many male visitors, her only relationship seems to have been with Giacomo Silenzi ( it was a sexual relationship, apparently not very serious, and she had at times had intercourse in her own room ). Which tends to undermine the idea of Meredith as "stuck up", that might be more accurately applied to Meredith's British girlfriends, although I'm none too sure about that.

Do we exclude the boys from downstairs? I think this is reasonable, because it seems that "visitor" doesn't seem a correct characterisation of the boys who lived below, and if they did "visit" upstairs, they were not specifically visiting Amanda, as far as I am aware.

So there is Raffaele Sollecito. But who else?

It's hard for me to prove a negative. I have done a little bit of searching and found nothing, so I think you should say who these numerous male visitors were.

[geebee2]

I also read at books.google.co.uk/books?id=-lWO1e86KNwC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=amanda+knox+British+virgins&source=bl&ots=XMGxzoWsBP&sig=yOsliAUkHAkCZxQrtzWqJEHD_W0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1Hb4Tu7GKJO78gP15o2nAQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

(page 24) that

"Meredith and Amanda were not the polar opposites later described by prosecutors. They were both smart, studious young women whose good grades came easily. They both loved to read and engage in deep, searching conversations. They were often described in the same way by their friends back home, who spoke of their beauty, sense of humor, wit and charm. Moreover, both Amanda and Meredith liked to smoke the occasional joint, get drunk and flirt. And both women were fully aware of their sexual power."

So I think neither was "stuck up".

[geebee2]

Ah, also in Nadeau's book, we learn that Amanda also brought home Daniel de Luna (for sex), when Amanda and Meredith went to the red zone disco together ( where Meredith also saw Giacomo ).

Meredith did not have sex immediately with Giacomo, so there is some difference there, but I'm not sure we can read very much into it, although I would agree that Amanda was "quicker off the mark" (err..) with boys than Meredith.

Daniel was a student from Rome but often visited the boys downstairs.

So that's two boyfriends (or whatever you want to call them) for Amanda, but given the circumstance (of Amanda and Meredith out together), it seems unremarkable. It's notable that Amanda met both her Perugian partners (Daniel and Raffaele) while out with Meredith.

We know Daniel was Amanda's only other sexual partner in Perugia, the third partner (in Italy) was a man she met on a train journey, but he never came to Perugia.

[fortaleza]

Depending on what you mean by numerous ( more than three? ), I doubt that this is true.

I would say 3 would be enough to cause resentment, particularly if it was over the course of 2 months.

Let me ask you this: Do you agree that there is evidence that Kercher mentioned the male visitor issue to an acquaintance?

[geebee2]

Dec 27, 2011 8:36:44 GMT -5 fortaleza said:

Depending on what you mean by numerous ( more than three? ), I doubt that this is true.

I would say 3 would be enough to cause resentment, particularly if it was over the course of 2 months.

Let me ask you this: Do you agree that there is evidence that Kercher mentioned the male visitor issue to an acquaintance?

I think I may have read that somewhere, yes. It doesn't seem to be in Massei ( I could be wrong ).

Please say if you have a source, otherwise I can try and look.

In other words, I'm really not sure if Kercher mentioned this, or whether the evidence that she did is reliable. If it's in court documents, I will accept it. If it's in a newspaper I may not. If it's in a book, I will think, well maybe.

I would agree that Meredith was more prudish than Amanda. There is evidence for that - she locked her door while she was dressing after washing in the bathroom for instance (Amanda didn't even have a lock), and was offended (maybe too strong a word) by the vibrator toy that Amanda kept in plain view. And clearly Amanda was quite prepared to jump into bed with anyone she fancied, or who had just bought her dinner, whereas Meredith was more old-fashioned ( sorry, I cannot quite think of the right words here ).

That's probably a cultural thing, I guess Meredith's mother ( I think she is Indian? ) would be much more conservative than the rather liberal environment I imagine Amanda came from in Seattle. Having said that, this may have been a bit of a mask, according to Nadeau, Meredith tried anal sex with Giacomo, which I wouldn't describe as conservative. Or am I the old-fashioned one here!?

[fortaleza]

Ok then there is plenty of evidence which would have formed a basis for Kercher to resent Knox. Anyway, I know that you cannot respond to this but I wanted to make my position clear.